Celtic Noise – The Change in the Mindset of Football Fans

The heading could, in reality, cover many subjects for discussion; in truth, football fans can be as fickle as a one night stand. However, the recent speculation regarding JJ and GG moving on has, once again, highlighted what, for me, is a massive change in the way we think about our club in particular, as well as the game in general.

 Giorgos Giakoumakis celebrates with teammates after scoring during the Champions League match between Celtic and Shakhtar Donetsk, at Celtic Park, on October 25, 2022. (Photo by ANDY BUCHANAN/AFP via Getty Images)

Don’t get me wrong folks, this isn’t a case of some auld geezer longing for the return of the days when just pulling our beloved jersey of over their head was enough for some kids born and raised in our wonderful wee country: no, I’m too long in the tooth to believe in utopia.

We now, (myself included) speculate as to how much profit the club will earn as a result of successfully finding the proverbial gem plying his trade in some far-flung league. Again, I totally get it: it is what it is; but I think it can also be said it’s the very definition of short-termism.

Alas, it has to be said, we have also lost out on some of our most promising youngsters who chose to seek a different career path elsewhere. That, of course, is entirely as it should be: they had every right to make that choice.

Probably doesn’t need to be said; but what this situation really tells us, is that the scouting department is absolutely vital to the continued success of our club; whether us auld geezers like it or not. Wouldn’t it be nice though, if we found a Calmac, or a Forrest?…or even another KT? Ano, Ano, nostalgia is a thing of the past!

Be nice to each other.

Frank Owen
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Realism set in for me years ago…we are a selling club, there nae money in the Scottish game, we are unable to compete with big boys of Europe, yes we may land a lucky blow every once in a while and give the Barcelona’s of the world a bloody nose, but in reality we’re Southampton’s feeder club, we need to sell our players while their stock is high, JJ has had a magnificent World Cup, far better than I ever expected, we got him for £3.5 million, I’ve seen respected sites now quoting him as a £30 million player he totally shut down Neymar in the Brazil game, the big boys are sniffing about him, another fine performance v Argentina and that figure is achievable.  Players come and go..but they always leave a wee piece of their heart at Paradise.

Bellshill Bhoy
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Don’t think there is any club in the world that is not a “selling club” one way or another. For me it’s how we manage the team development and we seem for once to be on top of that with Ange unlike as the 10 unraveled it was quite clear any planning had gone out the window. Control of the process is what we need and at least we seem to have that just now, but it is easily lost, Mr Lawwell please note.

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Peter Lawwell looks on during the Scottish Cup Final between Celtic and Aberdeen at Hampden Park on May 27, 2017. (Photo by Ian MacNicol/Getty Images)

I have become resigned to the fact that Celtic have to sell to keep ahead and now that Lawwell is at the forefront again (he never went away) it will only increase with huge bonuses to the board AGAIN. On another point having watched the WC and not seen a accidental hand ball being punished. I hope the MIB are watching and if they do not toe the line like the rest of the World I am sure our board will respond (H,mm).

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Unfortunately we are a huge, small-market club; constrained by the limits of the league we are trapped within. There is only so much we can afford to pay a player within the context of income and salary structure.

The signing of Alistair Johnston reflects the reality that JJ is probably moving on this year. However, AJ is something of a utility defender as he has considerable experience at CB as well but when you consider the types of offers undoubtedly coming in for JJ and the level of wages they will involve you can hardly blame club and / or player from embracing the financial realities.

26th November 2017, Hampden Park, Scottish League Cup Final, Motherwell versus Celtic; Kieran Tierney with supporters group Green Brigade

When KT left I felt bitterness and betrayal but that was more selfish than KT’s decision. A player like KT who obviously dedicated himself to being the best is going to want to play at the highest possible level and the amount of effort and dedication he put in deserves the highest possible reward.

JJ will move on probably sooner than later; end of the season would be my guess. But, given his current profile, our league position and the limits to game time his presence would put against AJ’s development I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes in the next window. Particularly given there’s no more Euro football demands on the squad or showcasing opportunities this season.

Canada’s defender #02 Alistair Johnston and Belgium’s forward #10 Eden Hazard react during the Qatar 2022 World Cup Group F football match between Belgium and Canada at the Ahmad Bin Ali Stadium in Al-Rayyan, west of Doha on November 23, 2022.Photo by JACK GUEZ/AFP via Getty Images)

If the significant transfer fee is transparently applied to providing Ange with the best available players and coaching staff and improving facilities for team and fans alike, rather than lining pockets, I can see no reason to be upset.

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The Celtic Star founder and editor, who has edited numerous Celtic books over the past decade or so including several from Lisbon Lions, Willie Wallace, Tommy Gemmell and Jim Craig. Earliest Celtic memories include a win over East Fife at Celtic Park and the 4-1 League Cup loss to Partick Thistle as a 6 year old. Best game? Easy 4-2, 1979 when Ten Men Won the League. Email editor@thecelticstar.co.uk

1 Comment

  1. It saddens me. The facts are clear that trophy’s are now bought at every level of the game. The big team in the league squeezes the small team, top to bottom. Only real pleasure left are the banter years and staying on top of The rangers. But that’s not even much consolation as its tooo easy ! being the bigger club of course. Sad for football, money destroys everything it touches. When we talk of the Lisbon Lions, we refer to an era when a team from a smaller league could compete. That was because they had more than money, Loyalty ! Sadly, it didn’t stop our board at that time milking the lhads and now we have what we have.