Niall J provides an alternative perspective on Celtic’s Dortmund defeat

The post-match calls for some tactical pragmatism, in light of Celtic’s heavy defeat in Dortmund on Tuesday, were as predictable as they were understandable. Yet Celtic may not be best placed to overcompensate just yet…

Serhou Guirassy celebrates scoring his team’s fourth goal during the UEFA Champions League 2024/25 match between Borussia Dortmund and Celtic FC at BVB Stadion on October 01, 2024 . (Photo by Dean Mouhtaropoulos/Getty Images)

The 7-1 scoreline was somewhat unfair on Brendan Rodgers side given the German hosts XG was a mere 2.64 from 16 shots (13 on target) on the night compared to Celtic’s 2.24 from 9 shots
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Big Chance creation was also close with Dortmund having three and Celtic two, meanwhile in overall possession Celtic were competitive with 47% to Dortmund’s 53%.

So, whilst Celtic certainly coughed up chances and presented opportunities to Dortmund, they were punished far more severely than the stats would indicate was justified – particularly based on the likelihood of conversion of those chances created.

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Meanwhile Celtic also underperformed slightly in front of goal themselves, and whilst deserving of a loss without a shadow of doubt, the manner of the defeat was arguably more severe than was deserved. It was a sore one that’s for sure but it was also something of a freak outcome, statistically at least.

With that in mind perhaps we’re in danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater if the tactical approach is to be revisited with too much of a defensive outlook for future games.

It should be remembered Celtic were without Cameron Carter-Vickers on Tuesday night –something of a common occurrence at Champions League level.

It should also be worrying for both Maik Nawrocki and Stephen Welsh that neither were trusted in the absence of Celtic’s best defender, and also bearing in mind the loss of CCV should always be considered a regular possibility. Perhaps a recruitment issue worth addressing in January?

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Meanwhile both full backs, Alastair Johnstone and Greg Taylor, were selected whilst carrying injuries that whilst manageable, were evident. Indeed, both full backs left the action before the end of the game.

Such injury issues are a regular occurrence at any club and many players play whilst carrying knocks, but when they do, they must also be protected. As such, what appeared to be a tactical decision to leave Nicholas Kuhn high and wide, left Johnston hopelessly exposed on occasion, with the benefit of hindsight of course that may have required addressing far sooner than it was.

In central defence Liam Scales performed well, however, partner Auston Trusty was playing a second game as a right sided centre back, despite being utilised as a left sided centre back – or indeed left full back – for the vast majority of his career. That should offer some mitigation when it comes to Trusty’s own performance, that alongside this being only his second 90 minutes in a Celtic shirt.

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Karim Adeyemi celebrates scoring his team’s third goal with teammates during the UEFA Champions League 2024/25  match between Borussia Dortmund and Celtic FC at BVB Stadion Dortmund on October 01, 2024 (Photo by Dean Mouhtaropoulos/Getty Images)

However, it was ahead of the defence where there may well be criticism levelled at the Celtic manager. The space offered to Dortmund’s attack when Celtic were countered on in midfield was evident throughout the game and wasn’t addressed appropriately.

With Paulo Bernardo and Arne Engels playing ahead of Callum McGregor there was little assistance for the Celtic captain in transition and when McGregor is exposed it is logical the defence soon will be too – and so it proved.

Dortmund managed 13 shots on target from 40 touches in the box, meanwhile at the other end Celtic managed only two from 12 touches in the Dortmund penalty area. That highlights a clear protection issue for Celtic’s defence from their midfield colleagues alongside our wingers.

This is something of a depth issue for Brendan Rodgers. There has been a great turnover in the squad, as Celtic moved to a leaner group with an emphasis on quality over quantity and that approach makes sense. However, Celtic no longer have any player whose first choice of position would be as the deepest lying midfielder.

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In the majority of games there is no need for a defensive player in such a position and as such there is little merit in carrying such a player in the squad. However, given there will be eventualities where more protection is required, particularly away from home in Europe’s top competition, there is certainly an argument to be made for Callum McGregor having a partner alongside him.

Perhaps a 4-2-3-1 formation rather than the utilised 4-3-3 is worth consideration. Indeed, it may well be worth considering McGregor and Engels playing alongside one another with Reo Hatate playing the attacking midfield role.

It is perfectly understandable that words like humiliation and embarrassment are being bandied about in light of a thumping scoreline, but when we take stock, we must consider strategic tweaks rather than major changes in tactical philosophy or outright formational alterations.

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Serhou Guirassy of Borussia Dortmund celebrates scoring his team’s sixth goal during the UEFA Champions League 2024/25 League Phase MD6 match between Borussia Dortmund and Celtic FC at BVB Stadion Dortmund on October 01, 2024. (Photo by Dean Mouhtaropoulos/Getty Images)

After two games Celtic are exactly where we would have expected them to be in the Champions League table, a home win against a debutant and an away defeat to last season’s Champions League finalists. Ten points is the target, we may even get lucky with nine points and qualify for the play-off stage by securing just two more wins.

Young Boys and Club Brugge at Celtic Park would seem the best opportunities and whilst both will be tough encounters, Leipzig at home and Zagreb away must be targeted for the possibility of further points. Atalanta and Aston Villa away are likely to result in defeats but with the caveat there is a chance to learn from the Dortmund errors in those fixtures.

Celtic have had an outstanding pre-season and opening to both the domestic and European season prior to Tuesday’s trip to Dortmund. The players and coaching staff deserve great credit for that start and also deserve some very valid criticism for letting the game get away from them in midweek.

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The Dortmund result itself was harsh on Celtic, yet much has been close to perfect about Celtic’s season to date, other than the outlier result from Tuesday night.

If it is to remain an outlier, how Celtic set-up and perform away from home to top clubs needs to be addressed. However, the answers to those tough questions may require some minor alterations rather than major surgery.

Niall J

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As a Bellshill Bhoy I was taken to my first Celtic game in the summer of 1987. It was Billy McNeill’s return to Celtic Park as manager and Celtic lost 5-1 to Arsenal . I thought I was a jinx, I think my Grandfather might have thought the same. It was the finest gift anyone ever gave me when he walked me through Parkhead's gates.

2 Comments

  1. Agreed that tweaks are required with our tactical approach in CL away games?
    The biggest one, I hope Rodgers is going to change, that Ange introduced, is using a midfield player in the high press?
    Getting a midfield player, along with kyogo to target the CBs, works well enough against the lesser teams, especially within the SPFL and forcing them to play the longer ball moreso and ourselves allowed to recycle possession far quicker?
    The downside is when we face good footballing teams that are comfortable in playing through such an aggressive press, leaves ourselves outnumbered in the midfield areas, and good footballing teams like dortmund, will take full advantage of it also?
    As for our own CBs, they don’t have a longer range pass within them, so doesn’t offer ourselves that many outs, when trying to play against the aggressive high press Dortmund where able to use so effectively against ourselves, where the lesser teams would worry with our pace in the forward areas, if and when we can play through the high press?
    Still believe Rodgers will analyse certain aspects of our game, that will require to be addressed, but don’t believe that he will totally change his approach either imo?
    We weren’t able to get our full backs into the game whatsoever to help create overloads in the midfield or attacking areas, which had a big impact upon how we want to play also?
    Yet valle done very well in that regards when he was introduced, and also able to win his duels also?
    Small details within our own game, can and will have a massive impact, within games at the highest level within CL?
    Still the problem exists where we don’t get much opportunities within the SPFL, to put tweaks that are required within away days in CL, into practice within the SPFL?
    So finding the solutions required, may not be as simple to find as we would like, with so little available time to put into practice, between the quality we face at SPFL and CL?

  2. Brenden Rogers has the worst record of any celtic manager when it comes to games against european oposition. seven goals conceded against Dortmund 7 goals conceded against PSG 7 goals conceded against Atletico Madrid 7 goals conceded against Barcelona. Will he ever learn how to play away games in europe. Atalanta are up next, dare i suggest we park the bus and rely on quick breaks with Maeda and Kyogo . When out of possesion we have everybody behind the ball to stifle Atalanta. We need to get at.least a draw in this game. If it means be boring and negative in our play and we come away with a point so be it.

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