“The lawless element in the Celtic support, “David Tanner but It’s staring them in the face over at Ibrox

“The lawless element in the Celtic support,” broadcaster David Tanner tweeted on 20 December last year using the hashtag Scottish Cup,” – The Green-eyed monster Brigade – break lockdown and gather at Hampden. An embarrassment for the majority of fans. The question is are they attacking the team bus this week or cheering it? Mobs are fickle by nature…”

“Super excited to hear David Tanner thoughts on today’s events,” Chris noted, referring of course to his Ibrox favourites whose supporters of their latest club gathered today at the stadium Founding Father Charles Green bought from the Administrators in June 2012 as the old club slipped to into the corporate graveyard after creditors rejected a CVA. Today they edged closer to their first ever title, while being deluded that they are still the same club that went bust.

Indeed as the gathered looking at the stadium the answer was actually staring them in the face, Just have a look at the gates and ask yourself why if Rangers Football Club (the club) was somehow different from Rangers Football Ltd (the now bust holding company) then why was the Holding Company named on the gates and not THE CLUB.

And why was there never any mention of this separate Holding Company until after they went into liquidation? The best kept secret in Scottish football that one was.

Anyway feel free to ask David Tanner what his thoughts are on the mass gatherings at Ibrox today.

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On Saturday 1 November 2014 former Rangers vice chairman Donald Findlay broke ranks with the Ibrox myth-makers in an interview in the Scottish Daily Mail in which he stated that the post liquidation Rangers are a ‘new entity’ which must establish ‘its own history and tradition’.

Findlay stated: “It is a different club. They may play at Ibrox and they may play sometimes in royal blue jerseys. But you cannot pass on that which is undefinable. And that is spirit and tradition and all the rest of it.

“To me this is a new Rangers which has to establish its own history and tradition. But it’s not the Rangers I know. To me, genuinely, it is a new entity.”

Findlay also believes he is not the only supporter of the liquidated football club to hold these views, but most prefer to remain silent.

‘The view I have is one expressed to me by a lot of other Rangers supporters” declared Findlay. “You can buy assets,” he conceded, “but you can’t buy history. You can’t buy tradition. History and tradition are in the heart and in the mind. You can’t buy that.”

Charles Green was able to buy the assets of the doomed club in June 2012 after the creditors voted down the CVA proposed by the administrators Duff & Phelps, who were selected by Craig Whyte and appointed by the Court of Session on 14 February 2012 as Rangers slipped into administration.

Findlay is currently Chairman of Cowdenbeath FC, his first role in football since being exposed singing sectarian songs while vice chairman at Rangers (1872) and having to resign. Findlay gave the interview a few days ahead of Rangers’ (2012) visit to Cowdenbeath’s Central Park on lower division league duties.

In an earlier league fixture the programme editor at Livingston FC was forced to resign amid threats of future boycotts by the traveling support and online abuse on social media site directed at the West Lothian club and indeed the editor.

In an attempt to take the heat out if the situation the Livingston chairman issued an apology for any offence taken by the Rangers (2012) supporters but did NOT retract the factual basis of the programme feature, that the Rangers Livingston lost to that day was a new club.

In previous seasons in their short history, while further down the Scottish leagues, supporters of the new club bullied other clubs, such as Montrose, who dared to tell it like it is by calling Rangers a new club.

Supporters of all other teams in Scotland are all aware of the facts regarding the demise of the football club whose name – Rangers Football Club Ltd – is displayed on those famous gates at Ibrox, as today’s photograph clearly shows.

Visiting supporters to Ibrox remind their hosts of the uncomfortable truth by singing “You’re not Rangers anymore”. At times like this the truth really does hurt down Govan way.

Despite Rangers knowing that everyone else knows their status as a new club, a soothing narrative emerged where the word liquidation is never used. Instead the club “emerged from administration” and was “demoted” to the bottom tier due to the behaviour of one man – Craig Whyte. It wasn’t their fault – they are victims and everyone else in Scottish football – including notably Dundee United and Raith Rovers – kicked them when they were down. And they want payback – something old co failed to achieve towards hundreds of creditors from the face-painter to HMRC.

The role of the SFA in all of this is complex. Supporters of other clubs point to Campbell Ogilvie, the heavily compromised President of the SFA remaining in post despite being up to his neck in the muck of the Rangers’ demise. These supporters believe, with good reason, that everything and anything the SFA could do to assist Rangers – was done. It was only an online rebellion by season ticket holders of other Scottish clubs that prevented a new Rangers being parachuted into the second rather than the fourth tier back in the summer of 2012.

Despite all of this the Rangers supporters believe that they have actually been harshly treated by the SFA!

Celtic supporters questioned our own club and pointed out of that if an ex- Rangers (1872) vice chairman could make such a statement then Celtic should have clearly stated that Findlay was correct.  A joke by Celtic Chief Executive Peter Lawwell tagging the new club as Rory Bremner FC was entirely insufficient to these Celtic supporters who believe that the club should  have stated clearly that Celtic regard Rangers (2012) as a new entity, with no claim on the history of the liquidated club. and confirmed that Celtic regard the term Old Firm, the joint descriptive term for Celtic and the liquidated club, as having died with Rangers upon their liquidation.

Celtic should have stated for the avoidance of doubt that ‘Rangers’ were never demoted. Instead the new club were given preferential treatment in being allowed a place in the fourth tier to fill the gap created by the demise of Rangers through liquidation.

About Author

The Celtic Star founder and editor, who has edited numerous Celtic books over the past decade or so including several from Lisbon Lions, Willie Wallace, Tommy Gemmell and Jim Craig. Earliest Celtic memories include a win over East Fife at Celtic Park and the 4-1 League Cup loss to Partick Thistle as a 6 year old. Best game? Easy 4-2, 1979 when Ten Men Won the League. Email editor@thecelticstar.co.uk

4 Comments

  1. oi, shit for brains, as has been explained numerus times, Rangers are the same club but different company. This is the legal view as well as the view held by the football authorities. Looking forward to giving Celtic a good thrashing on 21st March. Sure it is old and it is beautiful……..

    • MR CHRIS KINNEAR on

      Bob
      The legal view is that your old club was sent for liquidation.
      Don’t take my word for it, just look on Companies House website.
      Young and ugly indeed…

    • OI shit for brains BOB. EVERYONE KNOWS YOU ARE A NEW CLUB. YOU WILL WIN YOUR FIRST TITLE

      20-21. So shit for brains BOB enjoy it while you can, because it will be your first and only for a long time.

      So BOB this is one that even you cant fix. Can he fix it ? NO he cant BOB THE SHIT HEAD.

      Sevco Scotland Ltd S.P.L. champions 20-21 HA-ha 💋💋💋

  2. The rangers ARE a new club and wee Fergus would have challenged any notion that it was the same club , the rangers fans themselves had a save the history show liquidation the RED CARD ,
    they know they’re a new club but can’t say it as it hurts them .